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Contributor: traff1

Date: 2003-03-30 23:10:54

Expel him? Why?
Expel Iraqi diplomats FIRST.

Is it just me, or am I one of few Canadians who think that my future is being ruined by what is going on today at the diplomatic level with our government.

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Contributor: codc01

Date: 2003-03-31 02:43:31

Nobody should be expelled ...

Neither the Iraq representative (yes, Iraq's official government still exists - so unless the diplomats are spies, they should be allowed to stay!),
nor the US ambassador, he's just making a big fire to make more political turmoil in Canada (with quite some success!), but that is his right!

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Contributor: Fleabag

Date: 2003-03-31 18:59:37

It depends on what your view of what the future should be like before you can say 'ruined'.

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Contributor: traff1

Date: 2003-04-01 18:24:52

Ruined:
Canada US Relations is the most important aspect of our two nations that must be protected.

I value these things:
The Continental Security provided by the US.

The economic and business oppurtunities created by our somewhat open border and free trade agreements.

Most of all, I value the fact that because our once proud country that fought facist europe will no longer stand up for freedom, we can always rely on the US to complete the task started in WW2.

If you don't value the last point,ask our veterens.

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Contributor: codc01

Date: 2003-04-02 02:53:09

You are telling me that because we have big economic ties with the US, we should not follow our own foreign policy... Thats what I'm reading in your message....

I value morality over money any day...
(I'm sure we might not agree on the values of morality, but this is another story, in your message you seem concerned about our economy)...

Again the link with WWII, can you elaborate with facts, how do you see the link? Did Saddam try to invade your country and try to rule the world?

Is it because of WWII you support this war? This does not make sense...

I know veterans of WWII, and i know how it affected them, and i can tell you i admire them for what they did.

Soldiers follow orders, whatever these orders... So i don't even see the point with the current situation, please elaborate.

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Contributor: Fleabag

Date: 2003-04-02 18:59:45

I value our veterans immensely. My father lost an arm in the Canadian Navy in WWII (he was 18yrs in '44 and is still alive and reasonably well) and I am proud of him and all of his comrades.
In regards to the USA in WWII, if you recall, they did not want to get involved and only did so reluctantly, but very profitably. Our country does stand up for freedom, and always will.
The problem lies in the fact that 'pre-emptive self defense' is a very subjective card to play, and the US provided very dubious evidence regarding an 'imminent threat' from Iraq.
I believe 'Operation "Shock And Awe" was not meant for the Iraqis, but for the rest of us who dare to think otherwise.

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